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Mustang
03-03-2009, 11:00 PM
I finally had the opportunity to take some leave so the last two weeks of Feb I went to West Tx for some hunting. A good friend and neighbor went with me to help with the driving. He is brand new to the sport (never been calling). It was also a great opportunity for me to break my new camper in. We took my camper and his truck and left on the 16th for 33 hours of straight driving (with a stop at Cabelas in Fort Worth).

Feb in West Tx is the windy season. I went into this trip knowing that but had to take the leave when I could get it. Temps got down in the teens at night then up to the 70's in the day with the occasional high of 50's. Very few clouds during our two week span.

I was hunting two ranches owned by the same person: One is in the Davis Mountains and is approximately 30,000 acres of rough mountainous terrain and his other ranch is in the low country plains 50 miles south of the Davis Mountains and is approximately 9000 acres of rolling grass plains.

Gear: I took my CZ 527 American in 204 topped with 3.5-10x40 shooting HSM ammo 33 gr Calhoon hollow points, Benelli Super Nova w/steady grip, FoxPro Fury, Mossy Oak Brush outfit. My bud also had a the same CZ in 204 but his is topped with 4.5-14x40 and was shooting 32gr Hornady, Rem 7600 270 and a Rem 11-87. We both had Stoney Point bipods. For all sets but the first I we were sitting together and I was always on the left.

Coyote #1:

Time of Day: Just prior to sunrise
Temp: 18 Deg
Time on set: 12 min
Distance of shot: 80 yards
Location: Lower Plains

I started off with Lightning Jack and switched back and forth between that and Snowshoe in distress (20 seconds of calling followed by 3-4 minutes of silence). I saw him coming from almost a mile and as soon as I saw him coming I muted the caller. He came hard without hanging up. The foxpro was a good 50 yards in front of me in a Yucca bush. The coyote stopped just prior to the Foxpro and I anchored him. The sun wasn't even up yet. You can tell by the long shadows that the sun had just peaked over the horizon when we got up to him and dug the camera out.
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Coyote #2:

Time of Day: Just after coyote #1
Temp: 21 Deg
Time on set: 6 min
Distance of shot: 40 yards
Location: Lower Plains

After I shot coyote #1 we walked 800-1000 yards and sat down and called again. I should add that after the first set my buddy decided to sit right by me so I could point out the critters as they are coming in...so the rest of the sets are with us sitting close together. This time I tried something new and put the whirling woodpecker on the FoxPro antenna (they were 30 yards out in front of us). After 6 minutes I saw her coming from a good 3/4 of a mile so I told my buddy to get ready (since he's never shot one) and at 150 the coyote saw the woodpecker and made a B-line for it. At 50 yards I gave out a little bark to stop him and when I did he whispered that he lost him in the scope so at 40 yards I dropped him. He ran 10 yards then tumbled. ....and no...I'm not giving gang signs...just numbering the coyotes to make the pictures discernable.

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Coyote #3:

Time of Day: Just after coyote #2
Temp: 25 Deg
Time on set: n/a
Distance of shot: 60 yards
Location: Lower Plains

After I shot coyote #2 we were walking to another set and a coyote jumped up right in front of us and I anchored him and my buddy Keith finished him off. It's what I call a "drive by".

Not a bad start to day # 3....the sun had been up a total of 45 minutes and we had 3 coyotes on the ground.

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Bobcat:

Time of Day: 1430 (same day as coyotes 1-3)
Temp: 65 Deg, winds 20 mph
Time on set: 20 min
Distance of shot: 95 yards
Location: Lower Plains

Later the same day we set up on a small hill overlooking a huge flat. I placed the Foxpro 100 yards beneath us up in a yucca and placed us just below the skyline. After 12 minutes I saw something a good mile off coming in hard so I thought it was a coyote. Once he got within 400 yards I could tell he was cat and confirmed it in the scope. I could tell my bud was as excited as I was and I had a hard time letting him shoot since I've never taken a bobcat.....but I let him since I had already killed 3 coyotes that day. I should add that once I saw him coming I didn't call unless he got hung up...which he didn't. At 200 yards the cat paused momentarily and my buddy said "I'm taking him" and I said "no, let him come in closer". The cat kept coming and at 100 yards I told him to take him and I made sure he was in my scope as well because I didn't want this one getting away. He shot and I could instantly tell he was hit. Keith chambered another cartridge but I told him not to shoot because he would mess up the pelt. Sure enough the cat ran 10 yards and piled up in a mesquite bush. We were beyond pumped up. Keith kept him and will be having a rug made.

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Below is the view from our set up, the caller was down below and the cat came from the creek that is a good mile from the hill.
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Below, Keiths finger is pointing to the creek that the cat came out of.
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Below, Keiths finger is pointing to the taller Yucca that the Foxpro was in which is also where the cat was shot.
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Coyote #4:

Time of Day: 1730 (same day as coyotes 1-3 and bobcat)
Temp: 55 Deg, winds 10 mph
Time on set: 2 min
Distance of shot: 30 yards
Location: Lower Plains

Same day, as we were walking out to a set we saw some substantial sign that a big male was in the area. I let out a couple of Male Challenge howls and not even two minutes into it a big male came running off a hill so hard that he hit the barbed wire fence and tumbled a few times, got up and kept coming. I had to give him a bark to stop him right at the Foxpro and shot him at 30 yards. This is one of the biggest coyotes I've shot. Right after I shot I look over at Keith and I see a coyote running away from us at about 400 yards on Keiths side. We never did get a shot at him and he wouldn't respond to a call. Not bad for the day: 4 coyotes and 1 bobcat.

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Coyote #5:

Time of Day: 1830 (sun had just dropped below the horizon)
Temp: 50 Deg
Time on set: 3 min
Distance of shot: 25 yards
Location: Mtns

This coyote came in to the snowshoe in distress and I wouldn't have seen him hadn't he knocked two rocks together. I shot him between me and the foxpro. That's exactly why I went with the 3.5-10 vice the 4.5-14. For the longest time I was debating between the two and I now realize I made the right choice. Ideally, I'd like to have a 3.5-14 or 3-15 but it's hard to find one that does NOT have a AO or side focus.

No pics of this one.

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Coyote #6:

Time of Day: 10 minutes prior to official sunrise
Temp: 35 Deg
Time on set: 4 min
Distance of shot: 35 yards
Location: Lower Plains

We were set up on a hill overlooking a large flat and started calling when it was light enough to see. At about the 4 minute mark he snuck up on us and appeared out of no where right by the caller. I used my typical snowshoe and lightning jack combo. I told Keith to shoot him and he nailed him in the neck at 35 yards. HIS FIRST COYOTE EVER!!! Heck, I was just as excited. As a matter of fact, we were both so excited that he forgot to take his facemask off for the photo and I forgot to remind him. Too funny.

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Coyote #7:

Time of Day: 30 minutes prior to official sunset
Temp: 65 Deg
Time on set: 2 min
Distance of shot: 20 yards
Location: Mtns

This is more of an usual set. The landowner came along with us on this set as we were calling in a known lion area. All three of us set up in this rock ledge overlooking a large flat and has a gentle slop up and is covered with trees. The immediate area in front of us is tall grass and the trees don't begin for another 100 yards. Our plans were to use kid goat in distress and stay on the set for at least an hour. The foxpro was set up in the bottom and we were 40 yards above it. When I first hit the call 6 mule deer ran up (this is always a plus for me, whenever possible I call around deer or cattle as they will see/hear/smell/sense the predator long before I will and it has paid off more than once) and hung around the bottom. Not even 2 minutes into the kid goat ballad a coyote came from the left up in the rocks between me and the foxpro and as I moved my rifle to aim he saw me and I instantly shot him in the chest....done. We stayed for another 55 minutes or so but didn't see anything else. The unique part about this stand is that the mule deer gave away the coyote and saw it way before I did so I was prepared when came looping around that corner right underneath me. Thanks mulies!!!

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Coyote #8:

Time of Day: 1530
Temp: 75 Deg
Time on set: less than one min
Distance of shot: 50 yards
Location: Mtns

This is a cool one. We were working a large canyon that is roughly 5 miles long and dumps into an even larger canyon and we had no success so far. As we were driving to another set right where the two canyons meet I slam on the brakes and point out a large Rio Grande gobbler in full strut through the trees. I turn the truck off and we watch them for a bit. Keith gets his video camera and starts filming what is now 10 Rio gobblers that are less than 25 yards away without a care in the world about us. They slowly start making their way to where we just came from and Keith gets out and follows them as they are walking while I stayed in the truck. 15 minutes later I hear some coyotes howling and yipping from in front of us. I look around and Keith is too far off so I grab my rifle and Foxpro and walk up the canyon a couple hundred yards and set down under a large oak and put the foxpro 15 yards in front of me and let loose with a male challenge howl followed by female barks and in no time two coyotes were on me. That big male ran right up to me and stopped at 50 yards, bowed up and let out a couple of barks...he was there to fight. I let him fight it out with a 33 grain hollow point to the chest...he lost that battle. That little bullet hit bone just right to blow a softball size hole out of the middle of his chest. his heart was completely gone. The female headed for thick cover and I couldn't get a shot on her. It happened so fast that I didn't get excited until after Keith walked up. He was off filming turkeys and next thing he knows he hears a shot a couple hundred yards away and he's thinking...WTF? Another large male but still not as big as #4.

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Coyote #9:

Time of Day: 1730
Temp: 60 Deg
Time on set: 10 min
Distance of shot: 50 yards
Location: Mtns

Same day as coyote #8. We get a wild hair and decide to video tape a hunt. So, I tell Keith that I'll leave my rifle in the pickup and I'll work the Foxpro and the video camera. We set up in a large flat area with sparse junipers and sit in front of a large juniper with the foxpro in front of us at 30 yards. I started off with some male challenge howls followed by my snowshoe and lightning jack combo and at about the 10 minute mark Keith whispers "here he comes" then askes me to range it for him. At that point he was 100 yards and coming hard and that's when I noticed that there are two and they are both coming hard. The first one (big male) came in and stopped at 50 yards broadside and Keith missed him and the male tucked his ears back and headed for another county while Keith attempted a shot on a running coyote and missed again. The female didn't run off but instead had a gentle lope away so I gave her a bark and she stopped and I told Keith to take her and he double lunged her. Coyote down and it's on video. If you watch the video you'll quickly realize that I have no business behind a camera because my cinematography lacks something to be desired. I'll stick to the actual shooting. Keiths second coyote ever.

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Coyote #10 & 11:

Time of Day: 1815 (right after coyote #9)
Temp: 60 Deg
Time on set: 5 min
Distance of shot: 200 and 250 yards
Location: Mtns

This is my most memorable stand. Now it's Keiths turn to video the hunt while I work the foxpro and shoot. It's immediately after his last kill and we're running out of light. Again, we were on a large flat with sparse junipers and I set the foxpro 50 yards in front of us in a small bush. I start off with Male Challenge then go into my mantra of snowshoe and lightning jack. If you've read any of my posts on here or the 'other' site then you know that I've been known to say that if you can't call them in to within 80 yards then you are doing something wrong (hence my depise for large, heavy rifles using rediculous calibers that are used for calling)...well, this time is the exception, not the rule. Two coyotes pop up over a ridge and stand there for a few minutes so I hit the caller again at a lower volume to entise them but they weren't buying it. Something spooked them and they hung up at 200 yards. A few minutes later another coyote comes over the ridge and stands there. Keith never gets him on video. The pair stay fairly close to each other and once they "line up" I decide to take the shot with high hopes of dropping two with one shot. Well, it didin't work, but I did anchor the first one. As soon as I shot him the female took off running the other way and I roll her at 250 on the run. I immediately hit the Ki-Yi on the Foxpro and look for the third coyote but he dropped down in the canyon. Two coyotes...and on video.

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In all it was a great hunt and I had a great time. Keith had a great time as well and there were a lot of firsts for him on this hunt to include hogs and Javalina (another post). The wind kept us from calling several days. The ranch headquarters is at 6500 so you can imagine the wind.

11 coyotes, 1 bobcat and lots of hogs... can't complain.

SongDoghunter
03-03-2009, 11:34 PM
Good job Mustang!
Hey guys, I can verify that he actually killed these animals and didn't pick them up as road kill. I saw some of his video!

Mustang
03-04-2009, 05:59 AM
I did, in fact, see many "roadside" coyotes and I thought of you, Doghunter.

alien319
03-04-2009, 07:36 AM
That's what I am talking about! Great Job. Glad you had that good of a time!!!

angeluscorpion
03-04-2009, 03:14 PM
Damn! I knew a guy from West Texas and it wound up being a huge running joke over the course of four years and your post brought back a few of those memories.

jeeperdude
03-04-2009, 03:16 PM
cool sounds like yall had a blast

nissanman514
03-04-2009, 04:33 PM
great job mustang that is so cool i am glad you had a good time there isnt much that can top that huh!!!???my question is ive been trying to get one of these critters for over a yr now without prevail is it that mach easier to hunt these things in the west or maybe i am still doing something wrong??

angeluscorpion
03-04-2009, 06:00 PM
Nissan,
I can tell you from experence at least in Southern California you can't spit without hitting one. Hell until about a year ago I never knew we had coyotes, so I think it has to do with exposure. Also we have dogs that have met hunters, out west are far fewer hunters.

nissanman514
03-04-2009, 08:23 PM
thx for the info it just get kind of discouraging but i will keep trying!!!

raygun
03-05-2009, 03:13 PM
Brings back memories.....but I think me and your dad beat that hunt...... but was a long time ago...Thanks for putting me on to this site
Ray

Mustang
03-05-2009, 05:37 PM
Ray, welcome! Yeah, Dad said that it was a while ago but he's pretty sure that you two's best day was 9 coyotes, 6 fox and 2 bobcat and your best night was 6 coyotes, 4 fox and 1 bobcat. They just don't make them like you two anymore.


For those who don't know, Ray (Central Texas) has been a life long family friend and mentor. He hunted with my Grandad and a lot with my Dad. He's missed more coyotes than I'll ever kill.

Mustang
03-06-2009, 06:39 AM
great job mustang that is so cool i am glad you had a good time there isnt much that can top that huh!!!???my question is ive been trying to get one of these critters for over a yr now without prevail is it that mach easier to hunt these things in the west or maybe i am still doing something wrong??

I've been thinking about this for a couple of days and here are my theories:

There are definitely more coyotes in the west.

There is less food in the west so those coyotes are more than likely to respond to a call.

Predator calling is a fast growing sport and it seems like everyone has tried it out a time or two. Because of this, the National Forests and Game lands have been used for "practicing" by guys who have done little to no research on the subject. A lot of coyotes have been educated in this manner.

Don't give it up. Here in 6-8 weeks there'll be fresh litters on the ground and that has been a good time to use pup in distress. Make sure you're sitting motionless, using camo, nothing shining or noisy, give a good 4-5 minutes between calls, when you see one coming in stop calling unless he gets hung up, as you progress through your set start decreasing your volume and length of calling.

If it was easy, everyone would be doing it.

SongDoghunter
03-06-2009, 09:08 AM
I agree with you Mustang. The same thing happens here with novice turkey hunters. The first mistake they make is trying to get too close to a roosted bird.150-200 yards is close enough, especially if the trees are not leafed out yet. Next, they start calling to the birds while they are on the roost and get progressivley louder and pound the birds harder just because the birds are gobbling only to have the bird hang up on the limb till 9am or fly down in the opposite direction never to be seen or heard again. Then, most do not know which call to use or when to use it.

Our eastern NC coyotes have all the road killed deer, dead hole turkeys, hog farm dumpsters etc. they can say grace to. Why hunt down a screaming prey animal when they can lay around a den and eat on dead turkeys they've carried back from their trip to the local dead hole? They have their own supermarkets that are open 24/7.

Also, most adult coyotes around here have already had an encounter with people in the form of deer hunters and walker deer hounds and they just ain't as fond of us as we are of them.

Lastly, most novice coyote hunters return to the same areas over and over until they educate the animals to the point that an expert caller is not successful there. A coyote hunter needs several places not too close together that he can hunt on a rotational basis.

Mustang
03-16-2009, 11:32 AM
It was a great hunt and I had fun teaching my buddy what I know. I think he's hooked.

That was the first time I've video taped a hunt and it was rewarding having a video to go along with my story and pictures.


Total #'s were:

Coyotes seen: 18 (two of those were seen as we were transiting between stands: killed one of those)
Coyotes called in: 17 (called in two doubles and a triple)
Coyotes killed: 11 (killed a double out of the triple)
Coyotes missed: 3
Coyotes didn't get a shot at: 4
Bobcat called in: 1
Bobcat killed: 1
Fox called in: 0 (saw some on the highway but that was it)
Mtn Lion called in: 0 (saw sign everywhere...very elusive animals)

Average distance (even in the open country) was 70 yards.
Longest shot 250 yards.
Shortest shot 20 yards (in the open country).

The reason I posted the distances is to illustrate the fact that there is no need for a "long range" rifle, long heavy barrel etc for a calling rifle. Everyone gets wrapped around the axle with the term "long range" when there's no need to. Same with scopes. I use a 3.5-10x40 on my calling rifle and it was good for the 20 yard shot and the 250 yard shot. With a 6-18 or 8-20 that 20 yard shot would have been sporty. My opinion is that most of the so called "predator rifles" are too heavy, too long and too bulky. Not to mention stainless (nothing wrong with it as long as you cover it up). I'm also not a fan of having a sling on my calling rifle. It just gets in the way and my rifle is light enough so I can carry it all day without a problem. In the open country I would bring my bipods because I more than likely would see them before they were in shooting range and could maneuver my bipods without giving myself away. In the mountains I would leave my bipods in the pickup because you just never know where they will come from and having one come up behind you then run away from you at your 7 oclock while you're sitting at a tree makes it difficult, if not impossible, to maneuver your bipods in possition. It's much easier to free hand it.

My two cents.

Mustang
08-10-2009, 07:56 PM
Me and Keith watched the video of the two stands we recorded and on the stand where I called up 3 coyotes and shot 2 (the same video you watched over here, Curtis) we saw a fourth in the video that we never saw during the hunt. It is very obvious, especially on my big screen.


Pretty cool.

Mustang
08-30-2009, 08:24 PM
Keiths bobcat rug came in but we both forgot to take pictures of it before he packed it up (he's moving to Hawaii). The guy did an amazing job!!! When he gets to Hawaii and unpacks he will send me some pics of it. Still waiting on my coyote rug.

As it stands now I may be traveling back to Tejas and Arizona in Nov, so you know what that means......more calling.

alien319
08-30-2009, 11:34 PM
Sounds good, when are we going to do some calling?

Mustang
11-07-2009, 09:06 PM
As promised, pics of Keiths bobcat rug:

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Turned out nice.


Notice the hog...it's the same one from this post: http://www.curtispittman.net/ecphforum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=66

NCWildman
11-19-2009, 09:53 AM
Great pics! Dang I miss Eastern Montana!!!!! :cry:

Keep up the good work!

manxxcatt
11-22-2009, 08:00 AM
That's way too much fun for one fella to have..... Great hunt doghunter.... I'm green with envy. Next time you go to Texas, let me know so I can stow away in your luggage.....

Mustang
11-26-2009, 11:29 AM
That's way too much fun for one fella to have..... Great hunt USMC-Mustang.... I'm green with envy. Next time you go to Texas, let me know so I can stow away in your luggage.....


Thanks!